Jamal: Too many in law enforcement are getting away with not following proper protocol and killing unarmed people in our community, regardless of if those individuals guilty of crimes or not. Black Lives Matter

Nathaniel (the suspected white nationalist sympathizer): Why don’t you care about the high black on black crime. Look at the high Chicago crime rate. Also, blacks are dangerous. They are only 13% of the population, yet they are responsible for 51% of the murders and violent crimes. Do you have a clue what Per Capita is? The black community has a problem with being violent, and brings this on themselves.

Commentary: Nathaniel has made several false or fallacious claims. Below are the Factual and false claims that were made by Nathaniel.

True claims or assumptions:

-         * Blacks make up 13% of the US population

-         * Chicago has a high crime rate compared to other cities

-         * Blacks were responsible for 51% of the Murders documented in the FBI data collection for 2014

False claims or assumptions:

-         *There is no evidence that Blacks don’t care about Black on black crime and there are countless of African American organizations — including Gang Truce Groups, churches, Centers for ex-felons, Tutorial Projects, Mothers against Violence, Male Mentoring Institutions and more — that fight urban crime, debunking the narrative being presented by Nathaniel.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxyYP_bS_6s Mainstream media no longer allows these positive conscious messages to be played

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJD1oDKKMdM Mainstream media no longer allows these positive conscious messages to be played




-           *There is an assumption that there is a huge gap between Black on Black crime vs White on White crime. This assumption is false.  Black on black crime is at 94 % while white on white crime is at 85%. When people live among each other, the crimes that are perpetrated in the community are most likely to be among the people they live around. That can be expected. 

*The FBI data collected in 2014 shows that most violent crimes were committed by whites, not blacks. So blacks are NOT responsible for most of the violent crimes in the country. Whites were responsible for 59.4% of the violent crimes while blacks were responsible for around 37.7% of the violent crimes.  231,750 whites were documented by the FBI under violent crimes, while 147,002 blacks were documented for violent crimes. (The 147,002 who listed under violent crimes are less than 1% of the total black population (38 Million), (yet the black population are falsely stereotyped as being violent, while the crime data is presented in a way to tell half-truths, & taken out of context.) https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43 

*Nathaniel claims blacks are only 13% of the population and the 37% is double the number via the (per-capita %) arguing BLACKS are MORE LIKELY to commit violent crimes, but neglects to ALSO acknowledge that less than 1% of the black population ACTUALLY have been found guilty of committing violent crimes. This is very important to note, and because white supremacists chose not to mention this FACT as a way of presenting half-truths as a form of propaganda. This is done in the name of to promoting their negative narrative. There are many ways collected data and statistics can be presented to defend or attack a person’s or groups image. This strategy is based on how FACTS are cherry picked, presented, and worded. 

*In 2014, the FBI documented a total of 8,230 murders.  3,807 whites were charged with murder, while 4,224 blacks were charged with murder. 4,224 murders out of a total population of 38 Million is less than 1% of the Black population. Regardless of this simple FACT … white supremacist will try to paint a FALSE narrative that a Large and overwhelming  sum of the black community are involved in criminal activity, murder, or  violent crimes, by cherry picking and mis-representing crime data in an irresponsible bias way.  

*There is no scientific data that links a person skin color to the amount of violence a person is willing to do or craves to do. There is no scientific data that says the black race is more violent than the white race. Yet, we have people trying to point to the FBI crime data to make this false argument.

*There is nothing complicated about Per –Capita  ... We know there is a difference between TOTAL ACTUAL NUMBERS vs Numbers in proportion to the total about of the actual Population.  But when it’s time to look at the percentage of the population vs the actual amount of crimes --- It is never mentioned by the white supremacists that pick and choose when and how the per-capita information should be presented and rolled out.  

-         The total Murders by blacks in 2014 was 4,224

-         The per-capita of total Murders compared the TOTAL BLACK Population is Less than 1% (they never mention this one)

-         Out of the 8,230 Murders, 51% of them were committed by blacks, which is 3 times the total Population percentage of 13%. This is extremely high, especially for a small amount of the population. WE GET IT! But white supremacist and white nationalist sympathizers swear we have no clue what they are pointing out.

-         When it’s all said and done, the FACT still remains. 99% of the total black population are not committing murders and are not involved in violent crimes, no matter how many crime statistics and per capita numbers racists selectively present to make their argument. FACTS


Here are a few important Facts to note about the data on the FBI Website. If you stroll to bottom of The FBI website on this link, it reads: https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-43

The ethnicity totals are representative of those agencies that provided ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide ethnicity data; therefore, the race and ethnicity totals will not equal.


Arrests, by Race, 2014

§  In 2014, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were white, 27.8 percent were black, and 2.8 percent were of other races.

§  Of all juveniles (persons under the age of 18) arrested in 2014, 63.0 percent were white, 34.5 percent were black, and 2.5 percent were of other races.

§  Of all adults arrested in 2014, 70.0 percent were white, 27.1 percent were black, and 2.8 percent were of other races.

§  White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.4 percent of those arrests.

§  Of adults arrested for murder, 50.9 percent were black, 46.7 percent were white, and 2.5 percent were of other races.

§  Black juveniles comprised 52.4 percent of all juveniles arrested for violent crimes. White juveniles accounted for 59.6 percent of all juveniles arrested for property crimes.

§  Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.4 percent were white.

§  White juveniles comprised 55.3 percent of juveniles arrested for aggravated assaults.